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Salam
Voici le Tafsir du 11e Imam (as) qui prouve que le KITAB (sourate 2, verset 2) est bien le Coran qui est en nos mains, non falsifié.
Tafseer-e-Imam Hassan Askariasws, Part II
[size=12]Pour l'arabe :
http://hubeali.com/images/newimg/Tafseer-Al-Askari-_asws_-Part-II.pdf
The Words of the Almighty "Alif Laam Meem, that is the Book in which
there is no doubt and is a guidance for the pious." – VERSES 1 & 2
The Holy Imamasws said: 'The Qureysh and the Jews used to falsify the Quran
and claimed it to be an open sorcery that is being spoken. Allahazwj Said: '"Alif
Laam Meem, that is the Book in which there is no doubt and is a guidance for
the pious." O Muhammadsaww! This Book which I have revealed to yousaww
with the 'solitary letters' from are 'Alif Laam Meem' characters which are of
your language, "let them bring the like of it if they are truthful, and let them
seek the help of all those that are present.'
'Then, when they could not bring the like of it, Heazwj Says: If men and jinn
should combine together to bring the like of this Quran, they could not
bring the like of it, though some of them were aides of others [17:88].
Then Allahazwj the Almighty Said: '"Alif Laam Meem" is the Quran which
begins with "Alif Laam Meem" and is "That Book" which Musaasws was
informed of and the Prophetsasws after him, and the Children of Israel that I will
be Revealing it to yousaww O Muhammadsaww, a Book in Arabic, Mighty,
Falsehood shall not come to it from before it nor from behind it; a
revelation from the Wise, the Praised One. [41:42]
"There is no doubt in it" – There is no doubt in what appears in it as I had
Informed their Prophetsasws about Muhammadsaww that I will be Revealing a
Book to himsaww which will not be touched by falsehood, which will be read by
himsaww and hissaww community in all conditions. "Guide" – Statements
directing away from ignorance. "For the pious" – Those that stay away from
sins, away from fooling themselves, until when they know what is obligatory
upon them, they act upon it in such a way as to deserve the Pleasure of their
Lord.'
Then heasws said that Al Sadiqasws said: 'The 'Alif' a letter from the letters of
your saying 'Allah'azwj is proof over your saying 'Allah'azwj. And the proof by
'Laam' over your saying – The Great King, Omnipotent, Creator of all. And the
proof by 'Meem' – Heazwj is The Glorious, The Honoured, The Praised One is
all His affairs. And give this Statement as a proof over the Jews.'
'And that when Allahazwj sent Musa Bin Imranasws and then after himasws other
Prophetsas to the Children of Israel, there was not a single one of them except
that Heazwj took a covenant from himasws of his belief in Muhammadsaww the
Arab, that I will send himsaww as a Prophet in Mecca, and will emigrate to
Medina and will give himsaww a Book, some chapters of which will start with
the solitary letters, which will be memorized by some of his followers who will
recite it while standing and sitting as well as in every situation. Allahazwj will
make it easier for them to memorise it. They will read it with Muhammadsaww,
hissaww brother and Trustee Ali Bin Abi Talibasws, the taker of knowledge from
hissaww knowledge, and will be the treasurer of hissaww trusts, and will disgrace
every enemy of hissaww and will silence every argument against himsaww by
slicing proofs, will kill those who would object to the Revelation of the Book of
Allahazwj until they accept it willingly or unwillingly.'
'Then when Muhammadsaww passes away to the Pleasure of Allahazwj,
most of them will turn apostate after having only apparent belief and will
alter the explanations of it, and give other meanings to its (Words),
heasws will kill them over its explanations until Ibleesla who was their mentor
will be disgraced, cast away, cursed and overcome.'
Heasws said: 'When Allahazwj sent Muhammadsaww as a Prophet and made his
appearance in Mecca, and took himsaww to Medina and made him known
there, Sent down on himsaww the Book, and started the big chapter of it with
"Alif Laam Meem" that is "Alif Laam Meem that is the Book" and hesaww is the
Book which the previous Prophetsas were informed that Iazwj will Reveal to you
O Muhammadsaww "There is no doubt in it".
It emerged that Iazwj had Informed their Prophetsas that Iazwj shall Send down
on Muhammadsaww such a Blessed Book that falsehood shall never touch it,
that hesaww will read it as well hissaww followers in every situation. The Jews
then started their perversion and presented their arguments against it and
started asking – How long will this community last and how long will its
kingdom last. Then a group of them came to the Messenger of Allahsaww. The
Messenger of Allahsaww told Aliasws to address them. A Jew then said: 'If what
Muhammadsaww is true then we know how long hissaww kingdom is going to last
and that is a period of seventy one years, as 'Alif' equates to one, 'Laam'
equates to thirty and 'Meem' equates to forty and that makes seventy one
according to our calculations.'
Aliasws replied: 'What do you say about 'Alif Laam Meem Saad' has this not
been sent down on himsaww?' They said: 'This comes to one hundred and sixty
one years.'
Aliasws said: 'What do you say about 'Alif Laam Ra', Has this not been revealed
unto himsaww?' They said: 'This is more and is two hundred and thirty one
years.' Aliasws said: 'And what do you say about 'Alif Laam Meem Ra' has this
not been send down on himsaww?' This is more and is two hundred and
seventy one years.' Aliasws said: 'Is 'Laam' one part of it or all of them for it?'
They start to argue among themselves and some of them said that it was one
of them and some of them said all of them and that made it seven hundred
and thirty four years after which the kingdom would return to the Jews.
Aliasws said: 'Has this been written down for you in a Book of Allahazwj or are
you saying this from yourselves?' Some of them said that the Book of Allahazwj
has this and others said that this was their thinking. Aliasws said to them: 'Show
me the Book of Allahazwj in which this is mentioned as you say.' They got
frustrated in their intentions. Then at the end heasws said to them: 'Prove it to
me that opinion of yours is correct.' They said: 'The proof of this opinion is that
this is mathematics.'
Aliasws said: 'How can this be proof for what you say, when there is nothing in
these letters except what you make up. Do you see that in these letters there
is no proof for the time period of the kingdom of the community of
Muhammadsaww? But what if I were to say that by the counting of these letters
is meant the debt of each one of you in terms of Dirhams and Dinars to Aliasws
or Aliasws is in debt to each one of you for these amounts or that they
represent the number of curses that are to be on you?' They said: 'O Abul
Hassanasws there is nothing of what you are saying that is linked to 'Alif Laam
meem' and 'Alif Laam Meem Saad' and 'Alif Laam Raa' and 'Alif Laam Meem
Ra'.'
Aliasws said: 'There is no link in what you say to 'Alif Laam Meem' and 'Alif
Laam Meem Seen' and 'Alif Laam Ra' and 'Alif Laam Meem Ra'. If your words
invalidate ours so do our words invalidate yours.' A speaker of them said: 'Do
not be happy, O Ali, at our frustrations for we could not establish our claims,
but where is the proof of your claim except that we could not establish ours
and so the conclusion is that we have no proof and neither is there proof of
what you have said.'
Aliasws said: 'That is not so for our proof there is the amazing miracle.' Then
heasws called to the camels of the Jews: 'O camels! Bear witness to
Muhammadsaww and hissaww Trusteeasws. The camels answered back: 'We
ratify, we ratify O Aliasws, O Trusteeasws of Muhammadsaww! The Jews are the
liars.' Aliasws said: 'These are better than the Jews.' Then heasws turned to the
outfits of the Jews and called out to them: 'O outfits of the Jews! Bear witness
to Muhammadsaww and hissaww Trusteeasws.'
All their clothes started speaking: 'We ratify! We ratify! O Aliasws. We bear
witness that surely Muhammadsaww is the Messenger of Allahsaww truly and
that you O Aliasws are hissaww Trustee truly, The honour of Muhammadsaww is
not only proven by this for both of youasws are brothers from the esteemed light
of Allahazwj of equal parts and you are both partners in the virtues, except that
youasws are not a Prophet, but Muhammadsaww is.'
After witnessing these miracles, some of the Jews believed in the Messenger
of Allahsaww, but some of them were overcome with doubt. And so Allahazwj
Said: ''There is no doubt in it' – This is like what Muhammadsaww said and what
the Trusteeasws of Muhammadsaww said on behalf of Muhammadsaww, on behalf
of Allahazwj.'
Then Heazwj Said: ''Guide" a statement and a healing "for the pious" from
among the Shiites of Muhammadsaww and Aliasws. They are the ones who avoid
all forms of disbelief and all kinds of sins and exposing the secrets of Allahazwj
and the secrets of pious worshippers and the Trustees after Muhammadsaww,
and do not disclose them. And they unveil the knowledge to the deserving
ones and advertise them.'
The Words of the Almighty "Those that believe in the unseen" – VERSE
3
The Holy Imam Hassan Al Askariasws said: 'Then the characteristics of the
pious that are guided by the Book have been described.' Then heasws said
"Those that believe in the unseen" – That is that which is hidden from the
sensory perceptions from the affairs which are obligatory for their belief like
resurrection, and the accounting, and the Paradise, and the Fire, and Unity of
Allahazwj and all that cannot be seen but can only be established with the
proofs that Allahazwj has Established for them like Adamasws, and Eveasws, and
Idreesasws and Noahasws, and Ibrahimasws and the Prophetsas on whom it is
obligatory to believe in and by whom is the Proof of Allahazwj, and they have
not witnessed them but believed without seeing, and they are in awe of the
Hour (Qiyamat).'
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Tafseer-e-Imam Hassan Askariasws, Part II
[size=12]Pour l'arabe :
http://hubeali.com/images/newimg/Tafseer-Al-Askari-_asws_-Part-II.pdf
The Words of the Almighty "Alif Laam Meem, that is the Book in which
there is no doubt and is a guidance for the pious." – VERSES 1 & 2
The Holy Imamasws said: 'The Qureysh and the Jews used to falsify the Quran
and claimed it to be an open sorcery that is being spoken. Allahazwj Said: '"Alif
Laam Meem, that is the Book in which there is no doubt and is a guidance for
the pious." O Muhammadsaww! This Book which I have revealed to yousaww
with the 'solitary letters' from are 'Alif Laam Meem' characters which are of
your language, "let them bring the like of it if they are truthful, and let them
seek the help of all those that are present.'
'Then, when they could not bring the like of it, Heazwj Says: If men and jinn
should combine together to bring the like of this Quran, they could not
bring the like of it, though some of them were aides of others [17:88].
Then Allahazwj the Almighty Said: '"Alif Laam Meem" is the Quran which
begins with "Alif Laam Meem" and is "That Book" which Musaasws was
informed of and the Prophetsasws after him, and the Children of Israel that I will
be Revealing it to yousaww O Muhammadsaww, a Book in Arabic, Mighty,
Falsehood shall not come to it from before it nor from behind it; a
revelation from the Wise, the Praised One. [41:42]
"There is no doubt in it" – There is no doubt in what appears in it as I had
Informed their Prophetsasws about Muhammadsaww that I will be Revealing a
Book to himsaww which will not be touched by falsehood, which will be read by
himsaww and hissaww community in all conditions. "Guide" – Statements
directing away from ignorance. "For the pious" – Those that stay away from
sins, away from fooling themselves, until when they know what is obligatory
upon them, they act upon it in such a way as to deserve the Pleasure of their
Lord.'
Then heasws said that Al Sadiqasws said: 'The 'Alif' a letter from the letters of
your saying 'Allah'azwj is proof over your saying 'Allah'azwj. And the proof by
'Laam' over your saying – The Great King, Omnipotent, Creator of all. And the
proof by 'Meem' – Heazwj is The Glorious, The Honoured, The Praised One is
all His affairs. And give this Statement as a proof over the Jews.'
'And that when Allahazwj sent Musa Bin Imranasws and then after himasws other
Prophetsas to the Children of Israel, there was not a single one of them except
that Heazwj took a covenant from himasws of his belief in Muhammadsaww the
Arab, that I will send himsaww as a Prophet in Mecca, and will emigrate to
Medina and will give himsaww a Book, some chapters of which will start with
the solitary letters, which will be memorized by some of his followers who will
recite it while standing and sitting as well as in every situation. Allahazwj will
make it easier for them to memorise it. They will read it with Muhammadsaww,
hissaww brother and Trustee Ali Bin Abi Talibasws, the taker of knowledge from
hissaww knowledge, and will be the treasurer of hissaww trusts, and will disgrace
every enemy of hissaww and will silence every argument against himsaww by
slicing proofs, will kill those who would object to the Revelation of the Book of
Allahazwj until they accept it willingly or unwillingly.'
'Then when Muhammadsaww passes away to the Pleasure of Allahazwj,
most of them will turn apostate after having only apparent belief and will
alter the explanations of it, and give other meanings to its (Words),
heasws will kill them over its explanations until Ibleesla who was their mentor
will be disgraced, cast away, cursed and overcome.'
Heasws said: 'When Allahazwj sent Muhammadsaww as a Prophet and made his
appearance in Mecca, and took himsaww to Medina and made him known
there, Sent down on himsaww the Book, and started the big chapter of it with
"Alif Laam Meem" that is "Alif Laam Meem that is the Book" and hesaww is the
Book which the previous Prophetsas were informed that Iazwj will Reveal to you
O Muhammadsaww "There is no doubt in it".
It emerged that Iazwj had Informed their Prophetsas that Iazwj shall Send down
on Muhammadsaww such a Blessed Book that falsehood shall never touch it,
that hesaww will read it as well hissaww followers in every situation. The Jews
then started their perversion and presented their arguments against it and
started asking – How long will this community last and how long will its
kingdom last. Then a group of them came to the Messenger of Allahsaww. The
Messenger of Allahsaww told Aliasws to address them. A Jew then said: 'If what
Muhammadsaww is true then we know how long hissaww kingdom is going to last
and that is a period of seventy one years, as 'Alif' equates to one, 'Laam'
equates to thirty and 'Meem' equates to forty and that makes seventy one
according to our calculations.'
Aliasws replied: 'What do you say about 'Alif Laam Meem Saad' has this not
been sent down on himsaww?' They said: 'This comes to one hundred and sixty
one years.'
Aliasws said: 'What do you say about 'Alif Laam Ra', Has this not been revealed
unto himsaww?' They said: 'This is more and is two hundred and thirty one
years.' Aliasws said: 'And what do you say about 'Alif Laam Meem Ra' has this
not been send down on himsaww?' This is more and is two hundred and
seventy one years.' Aliasws said: 'Is 'Laam' one part of it or all of them for it?'
They start to argue among themselves and some of them said that it was one
of them and some of them said all of them and that made it seven hundred
and thirty four years after which the kingdom would return to the Jews.
Aliasws said: 'Has this been written down for you in a Book of Allahazwj or are
you saying this from yourselves?' Some of them said that the Book of Allahazwj
has this and others said that this was their thinking. Aliasws said to them: 'Show
me the Book of Allahazwj in which this is mentioned as you say.' They got
frustrated in their intentions. Then at the end heasws said to them: 'Prove it to
me that opinion of yours is correct.' They said: 'The proof of this opinion is that
this is mathematics.'
Aliasws said: 'How can this be proof for what you say, when there is nothing in
these letters except what you make up. Do you see that in these letters there
is no proof for the time period of the kingdom of the community of
Muhammadsaww? But what if I were to say that by the counting of these letters
is meant the debt of each one of you in terms of Dirhams and Dinars to Aliasws
or Aliasws is in debt to each one of you for these amounts or that they
represent the number of curses that are to be on you?' They said: 'O Abul
Hassanasws there is nothing of what you are saying that is linked to 'Alif Laam
meem' and 'Alif Laam Meem Saad' and 'Alif Laam Raa' and 'Alif Laam Meem
Ra'.'
Aliasws said: 'There is no link in what you say to 'Alif Laam Meem' and 'Alif
Laam Meem Seen' and 'Alif Laam Ra' and 'Alif Laam Meem Ra'. If your words
invalidate ours so do our words invalidate yours.' A speaker of them said: 'Do
not be happy, O Ali, at our frustrations for we could not establish our claims,
but where is the proof of your claim except that we could not establish ours
and so the conclusion is that we have no proof and neither is there proof of
what you have said.'
Aliasws said: 'That is not so for our proof there is the amazing miracle.' Then
heasws called to the camels of the Jews: 'O camels! Bear witness to
Muhammadsaww and hissaww Trusteeasws. The camels answered back: 'We
ratify, we ratify O Aliasws, O Trusteeasws of Muhammadsaww! The Jews are the
liars.' Aliasws said: 'These are better than the Jews.' Then heasws turned to the
outfits of the Jews and called out to them: 'O outfits of the Jews! Bear witness
to Muhammadsaww and hissaww Trusteeasws.'
All their clothes started speaking: 'We ratify! We ratify! O Aliasws. We bear
witness that surely Muhammadsaww is the Messenger of Allahsaww truly and
that you O Aliasws are hissaww Trustee truly, The honour of Muhammadsaww is
not only proven by this for both of youasws are brothers from the esteemed light
of Allahazwj of equal parts and you are both partners in the virtues, except that
youasws are not a Prophet, but Muhammadsaww is.'
After witnessing these miracles, some of the Jews believed in the Messenger
of Allahsaww, but some of them were overcome with doubt. And so Allahazwj
Said: ''There is no doubt in it' – This is like what Muhammadsaww said and what
the Trusteeasws of Muhammadsaww said on behalf of Muhammadsaww, on behalf
of Allahazwj.'
Then Heazwj Said: ''Guide" a statement and a healing "for the pious" from
among the Shiites of Muhammadsaww and Aliasws. They are the ones who avoid
all forms of disbelief and all kinds of sins and exposing the secrets of Allahazwj
and the secrets of pious worshippers and the Trustees after Muhammadsaww,
and do not disclose them. And they unveil the knowledge to the deserving
ones and advertise them.'
The Words of the Almighty "Those that believe in the unseen" – VERSE
3
The Holy Imam Hassan Al Askariasws said: 'Then the characteristics of the
pious that are guided by the Book have been described.' Then heasws said
"Those that believe in the unseen" – That is that which is hidden from the
sensory perceptions from the affairs which are obligatory for their belief like
resurrection, and the accounting, and the Paradise, and the Fire, and Unity of
Allahazwj and all that cannot be seen but can only be established with the
proofs that Allahazwj has Established for them like Adamasws, and Eveasws, and
Idreesasws and Noahasws, and Ibrahimasws and the Prophetsas on whom it is
obligatory to believe in and by whom is the Proof of Allahazwj, and they have
not witnessed them but believed without seeing, and they are in awe of the
Hour (Qiyamat).'
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Maryam- Messages : 42
Date d'inscription : 14/03/2011
Re: pronom demonstratif arabe
salam alaykoum Maryam wr wb,
Il est vrai qu'aujourd'hui, on entre dans le chiisme comme on entre dans un moulin à vent! Comme je vous l'ai dit, je suis stupéfait de voir comment vous vous attribuez ce titre avec facilitée. Macha-Allah! C'est tout en votre honneur, chère soeur.
Néanmoins, me concernant, je suis moins rassuré que vous, car premièrement, je ne pense pas que les aimer et avoir de l'affection pour eux puissent me suffire pour être chiite. Voici un récit qui en dit long ("Al-Kâfî", 2/60, H. 3. ):
Secundo, je peux vous assurer que d'autres personnes avant vous à l'époque des Imams se considéraient être chiite et pourtant!! Voici la recommandation de l'Imam infaillible ("Al-Kâfî", 2/62, H. 6. ):
N'est-ce pas flippant, chère soeur?
Voici d'autres qualités requises pour être chiite, et j'espère vivement que vous les ayez en vous:
Selon vous, donc, toutes les personnes qui se disent chiites, partisans d'Ahl ul Bayt (as) sont arrogants ?
Il est vrai qu'aujourd'hui, on entre dans le chiisme comme on entre dans un moulin à vent! Comme je vous l'ai dit, je suis stupéfait de voir comment vous vous attribuez ce titre avec facilitée. Macha-Allah! C'est tout en votre honneur, chère soeur.
Néanmoins, me concernant, je suis moins rassuré que vous, car premièrement, je ne pense pas que les aimer et avoir de l'affection pour eux puissent me suffire pour être chiite. Voici un récit qui en dit long ("Al-Kâfî", 2/60, H. 3. ):
Conversation de l'Imam al-Bâqer avec Jâber Jo`fî:
«O Jâber! Suffit-il que quelqu'un dise avoir de l'affection et de l'amour pour les Ahl-ul-Bayt (pour le considérer comme Chiite)? Non! Je jure que notre Véritable adepte est celui qui se montre pieux et qui obéit aux Commandements d'Allah. On doit reconnaître nos Chiites uniquement à leurs vertus. Ils doivent être humbles et modestes, véridiques et honnêtes. Il doivent évoquer Allah profondément. Ils doivent accomplir le Jeûne et les prières avec dévouement. Ils doivent traiter leurs parents respectueusement, et se montrer aimables avec les pauvres et les nécessiteux, les voisins, les débiteurs etles orphelins. Ils doivent réciter souvent le Saint Coran. Ils doivent dire du bien des autres, et bien garder le dépôt que leur confient leurs relations. Sois donc toujours pieux, crains Allah, et fais de bonnes actions. Allah n'est partial envers
personne. Les meilleurs serviteurs d'Allah sont ceux qui surpassent les autres par leur piété et leur obéissance à Allah. O Jâber! L'homme ne peut se rapprocher d'Allah qu'en Lui obéissant. Selon notre opinion, seul celui qui ne cherche aucun
prétexte pour désobéir à Allah sera sauvé du Feu de l'Enfer. Celui qui obéit à Allah est notre ami, et celui qui désobéit à Allah est notre ennemi. C'est seulement par leur bonnes actions et par leur piété que les gens pourront bénéficier de notre amitié»
Secundo, je peux vous assurer que d'autres personnes avant vous à l'époque des Imams se considéraient être chiite et pourtant!! Voici la recommandation de l'Imam infaillible ("Al-Kâfî", 2/62, H. 6. ):
Conversation de l'Imam al-Çâdeq avec Abol-Çabâh al-Kanânî
Abol-Çabâh al-Kanânî rapporte sa conversation avec l'Imam Ja`far al-Çâdeq de la façon suivante:
Abol-Çabâh : «Combien nous avons souffert à cause de notre attachement à vous!»
L'Imam : «Et que vous font les gens?»
Abol-Çabâh : «Chaque fois que je parle à quelqu'un, il me dit: "O Ja`farite maudit!"»
L'Imam : «Et tu crois que c'est parce que vous me suivez?»
Abol-Çabâh : «Oui!»
L'Imam : «Par Allah! Peu d'entre vous font partie de nos adeptes, c'est-à-dire de ceux qui sont fermes dans leur piété, qui craignent Allah, qui obéissent à leur Seigneur, le Créateur, et qui attendent une récompense de Lui Seul. Tel sont mes vrais adeptes!»
N'est-ce pas flippant, chère soeur?
Voici d'autres qualités requises pour être chiite, et j'espère vivement que vous les ayez en vous:
1° «N'est pas des nôtres, ni ne possède aucun mérite spécial, celui qui habite un pays de cent mille habitants ou plus, alors qu'il y a parmi eux un seul homme qui est plus pieux que lui» ( "Al-Kâfî", 2/63, H. 10.)
2° «Ne sont pas de nos Chiites ceux dont les femmes chastes ne sont pas considérées comme chastes dans les cercles privés. N'est pas non plus de nos Chiites celui qui habite une ville de cent mille habitants ou davantage, parmi lesquels il y a quelqu'un qui est plus pieux que lui» ("Al-Kâfî", 2/64, H. 15. )
Idrisside- Messages : 31
Date d'inscription : 24/03/2011
Re: pronom demonstratif arabe
salam alaykoum Maryam wr wb,
J'ai pris la décision de vous répondre point par point afin de ne pas mélanger les sujets. Dans mon précédent post, je vous ai montré ma vigilance à me considérer d'emblée comme chiite malgré mon amour et l'affection pour les Imams. Pour ce qui est de l'interdiction de s'octroyer des titres, il y a plus alarmant que celui de "chiite".
La question du titre de :
1° Mawlana
2° 'âlim
3° 'allamah
4° a'lam
5° 'alam al huda
6° hujja al islam
7° ayatullah
8° ayatullah al 'udzma
9° faqih
10° nâ-ib al-Imam
11° Imam
Cette question pourrait faire à elle seule un thread. Malheureusement, je n'aurai pas le temps de l'ouvrir pour qu'on puisse en discuter, mais je peux vous donner dans un premier temps ce lien:
http://hubeali.com/articles/Questions-On-Titles.pdf
Bonne lecture.
D'après mes connaissances, dire
qu'on est partisan d'Ahl ul Bayt (as) n'a jamais été interdit ou rejeté
par les Infaillibles (as), et s'ils ont en leurs mains les noms de tous
leurs véritables chiites jusqu'à la fin des temps, cela n'empêche pas
ils n'ont jamais interdit à quiconque d'utiliser ce terme pour définir
ou déclarer sa croyance.
J'ai pris la décision de vous répondre point par point afin de ne pas mélanger les sujets. Dans mon précédent post, je vous ai montré ma vigilance à me considérer d'emblée comme chiite malgré mon amour et l'affection pour les Imams. Pour ce qui est de l'interdiction de s'octroyer des titres, il y a plus alarmant que celui de "chiite".
La question du titre de :
1° Mawlana
2° 'âlim
3° 'allamah
4° a'lam
5° 'alam al huda
6° hujja al islam
7° ayatullah
8° ayatullah al 'udzma
9° faqih
10° nâ-ib al-Imam
11° Imam
Cette question pourrait faire à elle seule un thread. Malheureusement, je n'aurai pas le temps de l'ouvrir pour qu'on puisse en discuter, mais je peux vous donner dans un premier temps ce lien:
http://hubeali.com/articles/Questions-On-Titles.pdf
Bonne lecture.
Idrisside- Messages : 31
Date d'inscription : 24/03/2011
Salam
Idrisside a écrit:salam alaykoum Maryam wr wb,D'après mes connaissances, dire
qu'on est partisan d'Ahl ul Bayt (as) n'a jamais été interdit ou rejeté
par les Infaillibles (as), et s'ils ont en leurs mains les noms de tous
leurs véritables chiites jusqu'à la fin des temps, cela n'empêche pas
ils n'ont jamais interdit à quiconque d'utiliser ce terme pour définir
ou déclarer sa croyance.
J'ai pris la décision de vous répondre point par point afin de ne pas mélanger les sujets. Dans mon précédent post, je vous ai montré ma vigilance à me considérer d'emblée comme chiite malgré mon amour et l'affection pour les Imams. Pour ce qui est de l'interdiction de s'octroyer des titres, il y a plus alarmant que celui de "chiite".
La question du titre de :
Cette question pourrait faire à elle seule un thread. Malheureusement, je n'aurai pas le temps de l'ouvrir pour qu'on puisse en discuter, mais je peux vous donner dans un premier temps ce lien:
http://hubeali.com/articles/Questions-On-Titles.pdf
Bonne lecture.
Salam.
Je connais bien cet article. Il contient toutefois une ou deux exagérations, notamment pour le chapitre qui traite des "ulemas", car il existe bien d'autres hadith qui désignent les faillibles comme "des savants - ulema", dont voici un exemple:
لَوْ لاٌ مَنْ يَبْقى بَعْدَ غَيْبَةِ قَائِمِكُمْ مِنَ الْعُلَمَآءِ الدَّاعِـينَ إِلَيْهِ وَ الدَّالِّينَ عَلَيْهِ وَ الذَّابِّـينَ عَنْ دِيـنِهِ بِحُجَجِ اللٌّهِ وَ الْمُنْقِذِينَ لِضُعَفَاءِ عِبَادِ اللٌّهِ مِنْ شُبَّاكِ إِبْلِيسَ وَ مَرَدَتِهِ وَ مِنْ فَخَاخِ الْنَّوَاصِبِ لَمَا بَقِيَ أَحَدٌ إِلاٌّ ارْتَدَّ عَنْ دِينِ اللٌّهِ وَ لٌكِنَّهُمُ الَّذِينَ يُمْسِكُونَ أَزِمَّةَ قُـلُوبِ ضُعَفَاءِ الشِّيْعَةِ كَمَا يُمْسِكُ صَاحِبُ السَّفِينَةِ سُكَّانَهَا. أُوْلٌئِكَ هُمُ الأَفْضَلُونَ عِنْدَ اللٌّهِ عَزَّ وَ جَلَّ.
« S'il n'y avait pas, après l'occultation de votre Qâ'im, parmi les érudits ULEMAS, une personne d'entre les preuves d'Allah qui appellerait (les autres) vers lui (vers l'Imam a.s), le représenterait, défendrait sa religion, accorderait la sécurité aux serviteurs opprimés d'Allah contre les malices d'Ibliss et la cruauté des ennemis (des Ahloul Bayt), alors il ne resterait pas une seule personne (sur la Terre) qui n'aurait pas abandonné la Religion d'Allah. Mais plutôt, ces personnes (les ‘ulemas) prennent la responsabilité de protéger les coeurs de nos Shias opprimés tout comme le capitaine d'un bateau prend en charge les vies et la sécurité de ceux qui se trouvent sur son navire. Ce sont, donc, eux (les ‘ulemas), qui constituent les meilleures personnes aux yeux d'Allah, Le Noble et Le Majestueux. »
(Biharul Anwar, Volume 2, Page 6, Section 8, hadith 12)
Pour le reste, cela ne fait que confirmer les autres hadith que j'ai posté sur la dangerosité de parler de ce que l'on ignore, ou sans source solide.
Et cela montre également les abus d'une grande partie des savants chiites.
Toutefois, vous ne citez toujours pas de hadith qui stipule qu'on ne peut pas se nommer "chiite".
En revanche, savez-vous qu'on n'a pas le droit de verser la Zakat à ceux qui ne sont pas chiites (hormis deux catégories : les coeurs à rallier et les esclaves à libérer), en d'autres mots, qui ne reconnaissent pas la Wilaya des Douze Imams ?
Si donc les gens ne se déclaraient pas chiites, comment pourrions-nous savoir à qui la verser ? Et si on ne verse pas la Zakat, notre Prière n'est pas acceptée, et si notre Prière n'est pas acceptée, que nous reste-t-il à présenter devant Allah (SWT) ?
Que Allah (SWT) nous pardonne pour nos excès et nous préserve de l'égarement et de l'arrogance
Wa Salam
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Maryam- Messages : 42
Date d'inscription : 14/03/2011
Re: pronom demonstratif arabe
Idrisside a écrit:salam alaykoum Maryam wr wb,
Voici d'autres qualités requises pour être chiite, et j'espère vivement que vous les ayez en vous:1° «N'est pas des nôtres, ni ne possède aucun mérite spécial, celui qui habite un pays de cent mille habitants ou plus, alors qu'il y a parmi eux un seul homme qui est plus pieux que lui» ( "Al-Kâfî", 2/63, H. 10.)
2° «Ne sont pas de nos Chiites ceux dont les femmes chastes ne sont pas considérées comme chastes dans les cercles privés. N'est pas non plus de nos Chiites celui qui habite une ville de cent mille habitants ou davantage, parmi lesquels il y a quelqu'un qui est plus pieux que lui» ("Al-Kâfî", 2/64, H. 15. )
Assalamu 'alaykum wa Rahmatullah wa Barakatuh mon frère,
Priez pour moi pour que j'acquière les qualités requises.
Toutefois, ces hadith ne sont pas une interdiction de se nommer chiite.
Ces hadith sont une incitation pour les chiites à se comporter mieux que les non-chiites, et à être un modèle pour les autres.
Voici les hadith en arabe, avec des corrections, car certaines traductions sont fausses.
مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَحْيَى عَنْ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ عِيسَى عَنْ عَلِيِّ بْنِ أَبِي زَيْدٍ عَنْ أَبِيهِ قَالَ كُنْتُ عِنْدَ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ( عليه السلام ) فَدَخَلَ عِيسَى بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ الْقُمِّيُّ فَرَحَّبَ بِهِ وَ قَرَّبَ مِنْ مَجْلِسِهِ ثُمَّ قَالَ يَا عِيسَى بْنَ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ
لَيْسَ مِنَّا وَ لَا كَرَامَةَ مَنْ كَانَ فِي مِصْرٍ فِيهِ مِائَةُ أَلْفٍ أَوْ يَزِيدُونَ وَ كَانَ فِي ذَلِكَ الْمِصْرِ أَحَدٌ أَوْرَعَ مِنْهُ
(Al Kafi)
Traduction de Bostani : «N'est pas des nôtres, ni ne possède aucun mérite spécial, celui qui habite un pays de cent mille habitants ou plus, alors qu'il y a parmi eux un seul homme qui est plus pieux que lui.» ( "Al-Kâfî", 2/63, H. 10.)
Traduction plus précise : « N'est pas des nôtres, ni ne possède aucun mérite spécial, celui qui habite un pays de cent mille habitants ou plus, alors qu'il y a parmi eux un seul homme (non-chiite) qui évite le haram (interdit-ce qui fait mal) (أَوْرَعَ) mieux que lui. » ( "Al-Kâfî", 2/63, H. 10.)
الْحُسَيْنُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدٍ عَنْ عَلِيِّ بْنِ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ سَعِيدٍ عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ مُسْلِمٍ عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ حَمْزَةَ الْعَلَوِيِّ قَالَ أَخْبَرَنِي عُبَيْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ عَلِيٍّ عَنْ أَبِي الْحَسَنِ الْأَوَّلِ ( عليه السلام ) قَالَ كَثِيراً مَا كُنْتُ أَسْمَعُ أَبِي يَقُولُ
لَيْسَ مِنْ شِيعَتِنَا مَنْ لَا تَتَحَدَّثُ الْمُخَدَّرَاتُ بِوَرَعِهِ فِي خُدُورِهِنَّ وَ لَيْسَ مِنْ أَوْلِيَائِنَا مَنْ هُوَ فِي قَرْيَةٍ فِيهَا عَشَرَةُ آلَافِ رَجُلٍ فِيهِمْ مِنْ خَلْقِ اللَّهِ أَوْرَعُ مِنْهُ .
Traduction de Bostani (complètement fausse): «Ne sont pas de nos Chiites ceux dont les femmes chastes ne sont pas considérées comme chastes dans les cercles privés. N'est pas non plus de nos Chiites celui qui habite une ville de cent mille habitants ou davantage, parmi lesquels il y a quelqu'un qui est plus pieux que lui.» ("Al-Kâfî", 2/64, H. 15. )
Wa Salam
Traduction correcte : « Ne sont pas de nos Chiites ceux dont les femmes chastes ne disent pas de lui qu’il évite l’interdit – le mal (بِوَرَعِهِ) dans les cercles privés. N'est pas non plus de nos Chiites celui qui habite une ville de cent mille habitants ou davantage, parmi lesquels il y a quelqu'un (non-chiite) qui évite le haram (ce qui est mal – interdit) (أَوْرَعَ) mieux que lui.. » ("Al-Kâfî", 2/64, H. 15.)
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